I am now curious to know which winch bumpers would have an E sign. I guess that will limit us to the larger, well-known manufacturers. ARB and XRox, for example. Because they would be the only companies willing to spend on EU certification. I will research this as soon as possible. But for reasons of reasoning, would something like this probably be marked www.4x4at.com/mitsubishi-l200-199…nt-winch-bumper E? I had a little debate with your usual armchair connoisseurs in the FB group who seem to think that all forms of winch bumpers are illegal and that we are all baby killers because we have one, Despite the fact that my truck passed its TÜV with one, the police never said anything about it and I go through the VOSA checkpoints every week without any problems and even my insurance company didn`t care. Not to mention the fact that the National Trust and my local council have equipped a lot of vehicles with bumpers and winches. But with that in mind, can all legal types shed light on the exact legality of winch bumpers and what differentiates them from a buffalo bumper and bar A? Hi Greig, I didn`t understand that you were on FB dealing with the joys of inequality between people`s real names and their L200. Unfortunately, I do not know your profession, I assume the application of the law? If so, you are perfectly placed to correct me on the legal and legal side of a winch bumper, and I will gladly bow to the expertise (because that was the original purpose of this thread), as you can see above, opinions about it are widespread and different. Advice on legal requirements in the UK regarding bull canes attached to vehicles.
It is not illegal for vehicles to be equipped with bull bars, but the Ministry of Transport does not recommend it unless it has been proven that they do not pose an additional risk of injury to other road users. As for making sure you`re completely safe, would an IVA/SVA cover you? Aren`t they specifically designed for imports or modified cars that are now too far from the standard to be covered by the manufacturer? I`m just thinking of the suspension lift, body lift, winch bumper, V8,. Suddenly, my truck has a lot of angles and areas that could be examined. So if I`ve had an SVA test, VOSA says, “This truck is safe and compliant with the rules,” right? Could this regulation of electronically labelled mods extend to things like lifting kits? My body lift is Xpajun and my chains are blood red, but does that mean they are safe if my truck is examined? @Major dysfunction, yes, that`s a lot. But I`d rather pay for it than go to jail. Or go back to a standard bumper and winch compartment. Suddenly, a DIY bumper seems like a big risk. In short, it`s a job at your own risk. It is a very grey area. Also, read somewhere that it`s a little more legal if it`s meant to be used. Like a winch bumper and a winch on a forestry or rescue vehicle. Still not 2 safe tho.
I think it will usually be missed by the local plod unless you are involved in an accident. But then, it could also be a problem to have fluffy cubes because there is no standard. Unless you bought a hippie cart. If I read correctly, any vehicle before 2006 is entitled to a winch bumper and a winch, provided that the winch and bumper do not exceed the height of the hood and that the winch has not been mounted in such a way as to give the vehicle secondary protection. But it`s a grey area. I think the other thing is that it is only illegal to modify the front of vehicles, etc. from about 2007, because some time ago there was a discussion about the fact that a 2006 stroller can have a winch bumper, etc., but a 2007 stroller may not have one… Something like that anyway. Here`s what I discovered after mounting the tubular bumper on our Surf1. EU legislation distinguishes between a “bumper” and a “frontal protection system”. The latter is defined as a separate structure “intended, in addition to the original bumper, to protect the *exterior* surface of the vehicle from damage in the event of a collision”.
These include, for example, “bull bars” and “A bars”. 2. The legislation prohibits manufacturers (and probably certain other parties) from “distributing, offering for sale or selling” such “frontal protection systems” unless they have been approved of the EU type. And the rules are set in such a way that it is practically impossible to obtain such type approval. 3. However, it does not prevent anyone from owning such a “frontal protection system” or from installing it in their vehicle. The regulation is aimed at manufacturers and distributors, not end-users. End users cannot be sued. 4. In addition, the rules do not apply to “bumpers” and “winch bumpers” as long as they are not “intended to protect the outer surface of the vehicle from damage in the event of a collision”.
In some cases, it may be a gray area. However, the law defines a “bumper” as “intended to protect a vehicle when it is involved in a head-on collision with another vehicle at low speeds.” Thus, clearly, you will have a hard time finding a bull bar in Europe because many suppliers will not be willing to sell it to you. However, nothing prevents you from installing one if you come into possession. In addition, winch bumpers and winch brackets remain completely legal for sale and installation. This was apparently confirmed in a question-and-answer session from the Department of Transport. This is exactly what I found and used to show that the bumper was not illegal! Well, I`m really confused now. I also want to make sure I follow the law. Instead of just “unlikely to cause a problem.” And I`d rather not wait to shoot someone jumping on me only to find out that my bumper is chasing me. GB, as a Plod lens that has possessed some modified 4x4s, could you explain in simple terms what we need to know to be absolutely safe? Is it a question of style? That said, are we better off with a large flat ARB bumper than with the sharper, bullbar-like McK bumpers that many of us have? I appreciate this GB. For my part, I was not aware of the regulation on electronic signs. Although in retrospect, it makes a lot of sense.
I believe this puts me now in the situation where I would prefer to remove my bumper in favor of an E-marked winch bumper. Driving reasonably, I do not want to have an accident, which will probably be the fault of the other person, but where I will be prosecuted for a bumper deemed too dangerous. You can always modify brand new microphones and mount winch bumpers, no problem, my boyfriend just brought an Arb for his 2015 Toyota pickup Long live the entrance and your knowledge Greig.Yoda, Fielder, I will not move my Mck bumper because I bought mine in 2006 before owning the truck. (taken from my 4 runners) I told Mck not to maak yours so high and so prominent! 😜When you knock a person over here, they`re usually so angry that they bounce back and say “Sorry buddy,” I`m not going to rush to kidnap them, but I`ll definitely investigate how you recommend it. I read the fb post, is it just me who finds it hilarious that you know each other here? PMSL. Handbags at dawn. Vehicle bull bars must meet safety standards before they can be sold or assembled. £780 I prefer to rent an elephant to drag me outside. Well, with that in mind, I`m going to wrap my 6mm thick lamb killer in pillows and wrap it.. Sorry, I meant barbed wire.
“LS200” – V8 1UZ, Auto tiptronic, super select, Upol Raptor paint. Bigger, faster, stronger, brighter. REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FORUM ZONE – Central Scotland “go where you didn`t go”. Bloody hell mr greigboy great writing he opens more boxes of shite than ich. Diskussion im `General Land Rover Forum` gestartet von st86, 1. February 2015.